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	<title>Comments on: 4 Years Ago &#8211; eLiberatica 4th edition &#8211; A New Year</title>
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		<title>By: Lucian Savluc</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian Savluc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Romi, Happy New Year to you too! 
I wish you good luck with the Agora conferences. 
Let’s hope we will do eLiberatica 2011 again together; definitely, I would prefer to partner with your team rather with somebody new. We built a strong relation and I think this is the most important. I hope everything will go in the right direction in Romania.
Good luck and all my best,
Lucian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Romi, Happy New Year to you too!<br />
I wish you good luck with the Agora conferences.<br />
Let’s hope we will do eLiberatica 2011 again together; definitely, I would prefer to partner with your team rather with somebody new. We built a strong relation and I think this is the most important. I hope everything will go in the right direction in Romania.<br />
Good luck and all my best,<br />
Lucian</p>
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		<title>By: Romulus Maier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romulus Maier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year to all of you!
Agora will organise an Open Source/ Free Software conference on May 27 in Bucharest.
The conference will have, more or less, the same &quot;format&quot; as the other technology conferences we organise (http://atc.agora.ro).
Target: decision makers from medium &amp; big companies and from central administration. No admission fee.
Speakers: OS/FS solution providers.
As you can see it will be a different type of conference than eLiberatica.
We will continue to organise such type of conferences all over the year (12 technology conferences in Bucharest and 8 regional conferences in the major cities of Romania ...only in the first half of 2010!) ...and we will pepare for eLiberatica 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year to all of you!<br />
Agora will organise an Open Source/ Free Software conference on May 27 in Bucharest.<br />
The conference will have, more or less, the same &#8220;format&#8221; as the other technology conferences we organise (<a href="http://atc.agora.ro" rel="nofollow">http://atc.agora.ro</a>).<br />
Target: decision makers from medium &amp; big companies and from central administration. No admission fee.<br />
Speakers: OS/FS solution providers.<br />
As you can see it will be a different type of conference than eLiberatica.<br />
We will continue to organise such type of conferences all over the year (12 technology conferences in Bucharest and 8 regional conferences in the major cities of Romania &#8230;only in the first half of 2010!) &#8230;and we will pepare for eLiberatica 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucian Savluc</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian Savluc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Adi Roiban – is only a break, our plan is to prepare in 2011 one of the best editions. Thanks for greetings.

@ Constantinescu Nicolae – is nothing wrong, you should not have bitter taste. Would be worse to have a low quality and compromised event in 2010 rather than a break. Related to an association, that depends of all of you there, and the unity of Romanian FLOSS communities. Thanks for greetings.

@ Doru Ilasi – Thanks for comments Doru.

@ Nicu Buculei – I think the FLOSS is now stronger in Romania than 4 years ago. Still, there is quite long way until we can talk of a powerful Romanian FLOSS movement. Related to openness, eLiberatica was and will remain always open even some people fill find this later ;)
Other FLOSS events – I can only salute it! Happy New Year and good luck Nicu!

@ all of you – I wish all of you A Happy New Year, and a much better one for Romania in general. Let’s hope we will meet again all together in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Adi Roiban – is only a break, our plan is to prepare in 2011 one of the best editions. Thanks for greetings.</p>
<p>@ Constantinescu Nicolae – is nothing wrong, you should not have bitter taste. Would be worse to have a low quality and compromised event in 2010 rather than a break. Related to an association, that depends of all of you there, and the unity of Romanian FLOSS communities. Thanks for greetings.</p>
<p>@ Doru Ilasi – Thanks for comments Doru.</p>
<p>@ Nicu Buculei – I think the FLOSS is now stronger in Romania than 4 years ago. Still, there is quite long way until we can talk of a powerful Romanian FLOSS movement. Related to openness, eLiberatica was and will remain always open even some people fill find this later ;)<br />
Other FLOSS events – I can only salute it! Happy New Year and good luck Nicu!</p>
<p>@ all of you – I wish all of you A Happy New Year, and a much better one for Romania in general. Let’s hope we will meet again all together in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: nicu buculei</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicu buculei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the local FLOSS communities are about as united as the similar communities in other countries are, I  had the pleasure to work with people from other communities on various projects and they went well.

I will disagree with other people here, believing not holding eLiberatica  in 2010 is a large chance it will lose the momentum... but the conference came on my radar only this year, when it was more open (I was aware of it in the past, but I ignored it).

I am sure 2010 will bring a number of important events, even one organisation I am involved with has some plans for something in the autumn - is way too early to tell more, but the intention is to be very different in target, scope and participation from eLiberatica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the local FLOSS communities are about as united as the similar communities in other countries are, I  had the pleasure to work with people from other communities on various projects and they went well.</p>
<p>I will disagree with other people here, believing not holding eLiberatica  in 2010 is a large chance it will lose the momentum&#8230; but the conference came on my radar only this year, when it was more open (I was aware of it in the past, but I ignored it).</p>
<p>I am sure 2010 will bring a number of important events, even one organisation I am involved with has some plans for something in the autumn &#8211; is way too early to tell more, but the intention is to be very different in target, scope and participation from eLiberatica.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantinescu Nicolaie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantinescu Nicolaie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wise decision although gave me the bitter taste in my mouth... OK, it is very good when limits are known and wise decision are taken, but the bitter taste is there. I&#039;m not disappointed but surprised.
I hope this is for the best and I wish you and Zak all the best in the world and thank you for all your efforts. God bless!
Maybe 2010 would be a good year co consolidate the idea and to start the association? this also fell short of meeting a solid objective as it should have been as a natural outcome of all the efforts?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wise decision although gave me the bitter taste in my mouth&#8230; OK, it is very good when limits are known and wise decision are taken, but the bitter taste is there. I&#8217;m not disappointed but surprised.<br />
I hope this is for the best and I wish you and Zak all the best in the world and thank you for all your efforts. God bless!<br />
Maybe 2010 would be a good year co consolidate the idea and to start the association? this also fell short of meeting a solid objective as it should have been as a natural outcome of all the efforts?!</p>
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		<title>By: Doru Ilasi</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Doru Ilasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that as a good and wise decision Lucian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that as a good and wise decision Lucian.</p>
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		<title>By: Adi Roiban</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Adi Roiban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Hope this is only a short hiatus and Eliberatica 2011 will be a great success.

Happy new year to you and your family!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Hope this is only a short hiatus and Eliberatica 2011 will be a great success.</p>
<p>Happy new year to you and your family!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucian Savluc</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucian Savluc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dan – The reason I put that note related to Agora Open Source Conference is exactly to make it clear: as far as decided not to participate in organizing it, I cannot guarantee the event is equidistant - so I’m not supporting it, more than eventually spreading the word. On the other side, I think and I hope Romi will do the right decision.

@ Alex – Sorry, but “other volunteers” sound very vaguely to me ;) Over these 4 years, there were many people offered to do a lot of volunteering. A few did some, others only talked. I would prefer to be sure this conference would continue with the same quality and independence like the previous editions. For now, there are no people in my mind that would prove to me they could setup an identical event. &lt;strong&gt;eLiberatica is trademarked in Romania&lt;/strong&gt; and nobody else can use its brand. This is not a barer for other organizations, or volunteers, to setup FLOSS conferences there. The single thing is that they cannot name it eLiberatica. 

To make it clear: I did a lot of thinking about it, and my decision didn’t come light. I also consulted with Zak, which I trust most. I think is better a year without it, rather than a faint, (or worst – compromised) and poor organized event. When I’m putting my efforts there, I really do it until I reach the results and goals I made 4 years ago. I must to be sure will be the same quality like previous. I cannot do things on half... that’s me. And that is eLiberatica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan – The reason I put that note related to Agora Open Source Conference is exactly to make it clear: as far as decided not to participate in organizing it, I cannot guarantee the event is equidistant &#8211; so I’m not supporting it, more than eventually spreading the word. On the other side, I think and I hope Romi will do the right decision.</p>
<p>@ Alex – Sorry, but “other volunteers” sound very vaguely to me ;) Over these 4 years, there were many people offered to do a lot of volunteering. A few did some, others only talked. I would prefer to be sure this conference would continue with the same quality and independence like the previous editions. For now, there are no people in my mind that would prove to me they could setup an identical event. <strong>eLiberatica is trademarked in Romania</strong> and nobody else can use its brand. This is not a barer for other organizations, or volunteers, to setup FLOSS conferences there. The single thing is that they cannot name it eLiberatica. </p>
<p>To make it clear: I did a lot of thinking about it, and my decision didn’t come light. I also consulted with Zak, which I trust most. I think is better a year without it, rather than a faint, (or worst – compromised) and poor organized event. When I’m putting my efforts there, I really do it until I reach the results and goals I made 4 years ago. I must to be sure will be the same quality like previous. I cannot do things on half&#8230; that’s me. And that is eLiberatica.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexJ</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe there are other volunteers that could try to organize the 2010 edition if you are busy...it would be a shame to let one year pass without eLiberatica...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe there are other volunteers that could try to organize the 2010 edition if you are busy&#8230;it would be a shame to let one year pass without eLiberatica&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Serban</title>
		<link>http://cianblog.com/2009/12/28/4-years-ago-eliberatica-4th-edition-a-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Serban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be very interesting to find out more details about the upcoming FLOSS conference that Agora is planning on organizing.
I sincerely hope they choose their sponsors very, very carefully.
The reason I say that is because some time ago I decided to not attend any FLOSS conferences that choose to be sponsored by GPL-hating, software-patent saber-rattling, proprietary companies (I won&#039;t name any names, but we all know which company I&#039;m referring to). I call this the cognitive dissonance syndrome.

-Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be very interesting to find out more details about the upcoming FLOSS conference that Agora is planning on organizing.<br />
I sincerely hope they choose their sponsors very, very carefully.<br />
The reason I say that is because some time ago I decided to not attend any FLOSS conferences that choose to be sponsored by GPL-hating, software-patent saber-rattling, proprietary companies (I won&#8217;t name any names, but we all know which company I&#8217;m referring to). I call this the cognitive dissonance syndrome.</p>
<p>-Dan</p>
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